Tuesday, June 13, 2006

Here's a blurb on "Presumed Consent" for organ donation. It seems UK not only debated on the subject of boosting organ donation thru "opt-out" and "bereavement support", it actually was put to a vote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3845365.stm

This to me really demonstrate that not only is this issue debatable in China, it is debatable elsewhere too. To see more here's the Google search:

http://www.google.com/search?q=UK+vote+presumed+consent

7 Comments:

Blogger Dave said...

Please visit here to learn the truth about the organ harvesting atrocities that are happening in China:

http://www.theepochtimes.com/211,111,,1.html

10:58 AM  
Blogger bobby fletcher said...

please visit my blog on why Falun Gong's rehashed 1970's era "live organ harvesting" anti-communist propaganda is not reliable.

2:05 PM  
Blogger Dave said...

The Chinese communist party has killed more Chinese people in the last 6o years than any other single tyranical organization in the last 5,000 years.

It's a fact that they force abortions on preganant women.

It's a fact that they torture and kill people whom the party does not like.

It's a fact that if you look at a satellite photo of China at night, you see Shanghai and Beijing lit up, the rest of country is dark.

(The US and Europe are lit up from one end to the other at night)

China is dark because of the utter poverty that exists everywhere outside of those two show cities.

Given that forced abortions are a fact in China, is it really that hard to imagine that they kill people they don't like and make a profit from their flesh?

I'd say there is a VERY high probability that organ harvesting from prisoners of conscience and political prisoners is REAL.

In the United States you sometimes have to wait years to get an organ.

In China, you can get one in less than a week.

If the population of China is 4 times larger than the United States, then you should have to wait (1 year/ 4 = 3 months) to get an organ.

That's if they were actually getting them legitimately.

You can go to China and get an organ in less than a week right now.

Do the math. The numbers don't lie.

The Chinese communist party is killing real people for a profit or they are mismatching donors to patients to make a profit.

Either way, the result is very bad.

Now 'Mr. Fletcher' who takes his name (and profile picture) from a puppet on comedycentral.com, why don't you tell us who you really are and who you really work for?

http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/crank_yankers/cast_characters/characters/bobby_fletcher.jhtml

Looking forward to your reply.

-Dave

2:35 PM  
Blogger bobby fletcher said...

Dave without a last name, hides his blog profile:

This is my blog, and I'll tolerate you as much as I wish. Who are you to demand answers?

Why should I take you seriousely when you can't even bring yourself to face me like a man. I answer all the email sent to me about my blog. What are you afraid of?

Obviousely "bobby fletcher" is my blog handle. I'm a fan of the Crank Yankers. I ain't the only person in the world uses blog handle. Where's your Truth?

All this personal attack is really just to distract from facts presented. Go after the messenger when you have no answer, right?

After I've proven you are wrong about me being Chinese, you go to that asian bit. Are all asian Chinese spies? Where's your Truth?

Your citation of FLG's organ wait time is wrong. Check the clinical data in my blog, thousands of people in US get organ in 10 days or less. Where's your Truth?

I already blogged about why FLG's reason on increased transplant procedure don't hold water.

As to who killed more innocent people, try looking up how many Native Americans we (yes I'm an American) genocidally eliminated. Recent scholar placed pre-columbian population at around 100-140 million.

Our government subjected Native Americans to forced abortion and stirilization. Oregon has record on forced stirilization as recent as 1984.

And go look at how dark Montana gets at night, is it because of poverty and evil government?

Where's your Truth? Truth is you can't even bring yourself to admint you are a FLG disciple.

11:52 AM  
Blogger Dave said...

I'd like to say again, that anyone who would like to know the truth about what is happening in China, should visit:

http://www.theepochtimes.com/211,111,,1.html

or http://clearwisdom.net

or http://minghui.ca

Thank you very much.

- Dave ( my real name)

PS. sterilization is the word you are trying to use.

1:51 PM  
Blogger bobby fletcher said...

Dave without a last name, hides his blog profile:

This is my blog, and I'll tolerate you as much as I wish. Who are you to demand answers?

Why should I take you seriousely when you can't even bring yourself to face me like a man. I answer all the email sent to me about my blog. What are you afraid of?

Obviousely "bobby fletcher" is my blog handle. I'm a fan of the Crank Yankers. I ain't the only person in the world uses blog handle. Where's your Truth?

All this personal attack is really just to distract from facts presented. Go after the messenger when you have no answer, right?

After I've proven you are wrong about me being Chinese, you go to that asian bit. Are all asian Chinese spies? Where's your Truth?

Your citation of FLG's organ wait time is wrong. Check the clinical data in my blog, thousands of people in US get organ in 10 days or less. Where's your Truth?

I already blogged about why FLG's reason on increased transplant procedure don't hold water.

As to who killed more innocent people, try looking up how many Native Americans we (yes I'm an American) genocidally eliminated. Recent scholar placed pre-columbian population at around 100-140 million.

Our government subjected Native Americans to forced abortion and stirilization. Oregon has record on forced stirilization as recent as 1984.

And go look at how dark Montana gets at night, is it because of poverty and evil government?

Where's your Truth? Truth is you can't even bring yourself to admint you are a FLG disciple.

10:51 PM  
Blogger internetulysees said...

Both of you are wrong on the killing count of evil organizations, I think... the biggest killer in history are the British. 100 million Indians dead, 10 million Africans dead, hundreds of thousands of Irish. At the very least.
BTW, both you and dave should stop throwing ad homiems at each other. After all, after dave calls you a chinese spy, you immediately call him a falun gong pratitioner. It's not good to immediately contradict yourself after saying "where's ur truth?".

6:12 PM  

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