So what is "organ harvesting" anyways? Sounds terrible. Well, it happens in most country every day - it's called "organ donation".
Okay, how about illegal organ harvesting? (assuming the politically biased whatever you are reading isn't trying to mislead you with "organ harvesting *wink**wink**bad*"...)
Well, don’t' know where you are, but illegal organ harvesting happens in USA too. Recently New York broke a string of cases where thousands of people had organ donation form faked, bones and organs "harvested". The body is stuffed with plastic bags and propped up with PVC pipes and returned to loved ones.
Okay, let's just be honest and get to it - them damned Chinese harvests organs from executed prisoners. God damn evil chicom...
First, here's a report about a guy who turned himself in for killing his wife’s lover. Before he was to pay with his life, he decided to donate his organ as last act of redemption, and willed the organ donation compensation fund paid by the state to the victim’s family. In his interview he indicated the reason he called for press is to help bring awareness to organ donation in China:
http://news.sina.com.cn/s/p/2006-03-20/12299394605.shtml
Many such cases exists in China:
http://www.baidu.com/s?ie=gb2312&bs=%CB%C0%C7%F4+%BE%E8+%C6%F7%B9%D9&sr=&z=&cl=3&f=8&wd=%CB%C0%C7%F4+%BE%E8+%C6%F7%B9%D9+%C2%C9%CA%A6&ct=0
Some people would simply disregard Chinese media's reporting about themselves, insisting on what they know about China, like Buddhist culture and people's desire to die "whole" (probably learned from the movie "The Last Emperor".)
It probably is still true to some degree, but folks forget most Chinese are not criminals. Does one really believe "wholeness" applies to criminals in Buddhism? Above article demonstrates a common rationale for the condemned to consent to organ donation - the Buddhist desire for redemption.
You may find this irrational and indefensible.
But just for reference US allows death row inmate to donate organ to relatives on a case-by-case basis, and there are state legislations in proposal. Also until very recently Republic Of China (Taiwan) allowed this too.
Chinese culture and Buddhist religious foundation makes organ donation difficult to promote. However the condemned often seek redemption and last act of contribution to family and society, under the same cultural and religious foundation.
Yes, the Chinese government's organ donation compensation fund seems to be direct at this population, but its aim is to promote organ donation.
You may find faults in it. But who are we to deny their reality, and self-righteously accuse them with our Western sensitivity?
I do recognize there are abuses and irregularity, after all even in our own society where organ donation is more accepted, there are abuses and irregularity still.
But does this constitute “Auschwitz”?
Okay, how about illegal organ harvesting? (assuming the politically biased whatever you are reading isn't trying to mislead you with "organ harvesting *wink**wink**bad*"...)
Well, don’t' know where you are, but illegal organ harvesting happens in USA too. Recently New York broke a string of cases where thousands of people had organ donation form faked, bones and organs "harvested". The body is stuffed with plastic bags and propped up with PVC pipes and returned to loved ones.
Okay, let's just be honest and get to it - them damned Chinese harvests organs from executed prisoners. God damn evil chicom...
First, here's a report about a guy who turned himself in for killing his wife’s lover. Before he was to pay with his life, he decided to donate his organ as last act of redemption, and willed the organ donation compensation fund paid by the state to the victim’s family. In his interview he indicated the reason he called for press is to help bring awareness to organ donation in China:
http://news.sina.com.cn/s/p/2006-03-20/12299394605.shtml
Many such cases exists in China:
http://www.baidu.com/s?ie=gb2312&bs=%CB%C0%C7%F4+%BE%E8+%C6%F7%B9%D9&sr=&z=&cl=3&f=8&wd=%CB%C0%C7%F4+%BE%E8+%C6%F7%B9%D9+%C2%C9%CA%A6&ct=0
Some people would simply disregard Chinese media's reporting about themselves, insisting on what they know about China, like Buddhist culture and people's desire to die "whole" (probably learned from the movie "The Last Emperor".)
It probably is still true to some degree, but folks forget most Chinese are not criminals. Does one really believe "wholeness" applies to criminals in Buddhism? Above article demonstrates a common rationale for the condemned to consent to organ donation - the Buddhist desire for redemption.
You may find this irrational and indefensible.
But just for reference US allows death row inmate to donate organ to relatives on a case-by-case basis, and there are state legislations in proposal. Also until very recently Republic Of China (Taiwan) allowed this too.
Chinese culture and Buddhist religious foundation makes organ donation difficult to promote. However the condemned often seek redemption and last act of contribution to family and society, under the same cultural and religious foundation.
Yes, the Chinese government's organ donation compensation fund seems to be direct at this population, but its aim is to promote organ donation.
You may find faults in it. But who are we to deny their reality, and self-righteously accuse them with our Western sensitivity?
I do recognize there are abuses and irregularity, after all even in our own society where organ donation is more accepted, there are abuses and irregularity still.
But does this constitute “Auschwitz”?
posted by bobby fletcher at 12:50 AM
10 Comments:
Let me remind you, again, our genocide of Native Americans is unmatched in human history, including the Chinese.
And you seem to be ignorant of when CCP came to power in China.
Bob, I believe I already told you I'm not Chinese. I've never met a paster that is a bigot, not even a Southern Baptist, so I refuse to believe you are such.
Most Americans don't blog, including me. I don't intend to make a habbit of this, since I know full well, based on history, all this *rhetoric* will get dialed down, and eventually forgotten - until the next time the Chinese leaders visit.
Just look at your own blog archive. You don't feel a little manipulated?
Sorry, until then you'll have to put up with my amature acts.
How can you expect any one to take a throw-away account seriousely?
J, if you use your real account, I promoise I will respond to your satisfaction.
Be careful people, this is a propaganda agent of the CCP. They are "going round taking names". If (or should I say when?) they invade Canada you guys will be on the execution lists. In the meantime, they will try to figure out way and means to punish you and silence you. If you are overseas Chinese they will target you and may even try to personally strong arm you. They have targeted Canada's resources as valuable and are actively trying to protect and extend their financial investments in Canada with propaganda spin.
It is night and day between Canada and China. It is night and day between Totalitarianism and Democracy.
Don't believe their lies and spin.
there is not a single free newspaper or radio or TV service in Chain.
This is a good example of their propaganda. Imagine what it is like in China where they own all the news agencies and spin their garbage 24/7. People are defencless against it. They are experts at pretending black is white and white is black , they have been doing it for over 50 years.
Max, I know you are into fiction, but do you have any proof of your accusation?
(Or should I just counter-acccuse you of being on the take to post such baseless accusation, and our 5 year old ego can call it even?)
If you or your friends are in Seattle, just name the place, I'll be happy to put your "propaganda agent of the CCP" fear to rest.
Email me to make proper arrangement. Or turn me in to the authority. Talking trash in cyberspace is for little children.
Or should I call you "blogblugger"?
At least I don't live in the shadow with a throw-away account.
This article had no mention of "Auschwitz" or "Sujiatun"
What happened? Is it because US State Dept discredited this outlandish claim?
http://usinfo.state.gov/xarchives/display.html?p=washfile-english&y=2006&m=April&x=20060416141157uhyggep0.5443231&t=livefeeds/wf-latest.html
You should be outraged by Epoch Times NY's outlandish claim too - not only have they discredited your cause, they also disrespected the Jewish people's suffering by taking the Holocaust in vain.
Shame on you.
cream, the proof the photo showed autopsy came from Falun Gong themselves:
http://clearwisdom.net/emh/articles/2000/11/16/6164.html
I also asked a pathology professor to review the photos.
Do Falun Gong disciple always accuse people who don't agree with them as spies?
Where's your proof? Where's your Truth?
Thank you for showing the world what Falun Gong disciples are really like!
I'm sorry, you are not making sense. This blog is not about communism, nor do I cite anything from communist soure. My article is from US source, such as Wall Street Journal.
Where's your Truth?
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